Videos and meeting materials: September 18–19 ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee meeting
October 10, 2013
Post #277 Shortlink: http://wp.me/pKrrB-3tV
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This report relates to proposals submitted via the September ICD-9-CM/PCS Coordination and Maintenance Committee meeting for the inclusion of additional codes to the forthcoming US specific ICD-10-CM.
The twice yearly ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee meetings provide a public forum to discuss proposed code changes to ICD-9-CM and the ICD-10-CM/PCS. Next year, the committee, which is co-chaired by CMS and CDC, will be renamed to the ICD-10-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee.
ICD-10-CM/PCS is scheduled for implementation in October 2014 and currently subject to partial code freeze.
The meeting scheduled on September 18, 2013 was devoted to both diagnosis and procedure code topics. The second day of the meeting, September 19, continued discussions related to diagnosis code topics.
Below are links for key meeting materials, four videocasts, and agenda item listings for the diagnosis proposals presented on Day Two (videocast Part 4). This includes the presentation of proposals by American Psychiatric Association (APA) Director of Research, Darrel Regier, MD, for insertion of new DSM-5 diagnoses into the ICD-10-CM.
Meeting materials:
From CDC website: ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee webpage:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/icd/icd9cm_maintenance.htm
September 18-19, 2013 meeting Proposals (Timeline, Agenda for Diagnosis Proposals) [PDF – 342 KB]
From CMS.gov website:
September 18-19, 2013 meeting materials page
September 18, 2013 Agenda (Timeline, Agenda for ICD-10-PCS Topics, Procedure presentations) [PDF, 326KB]
September 18, 2013 Meeting Materials [ZIP, 4MB]
Download Zip file from CMS.gov meeting materials page | 4MB Zip file unpacks to:
PDF Presenter Slides: Cerapedics ICD-9 9 18 2013 FINAL [712KB]
PDF Presenter Slides: Respicardia ICD-9 Sept 18 FINAL [670KB]
PDF CMS/CDC Meeting Slides: September-ICD9CM-slides [3033KB]
PDF Text version of CMS/CDC Meeting slides: 508-Compliant-Version-of-September-ICD9CM-slides [282KB]
Videocasts for September 18, 2013 | Day One
Pat Brooks (CMS) Co-Chairperson
9:00 AM – 12:30 PM ICD-10-PCS Procedure presentations with public comment
12:30 PM – 1:30 PM Lunch break
1:30 PM – 5:00 PM Diagnosis presentations with public comment
Part 1 1:43 hours duration
Procedure presentations with public comment
Part 2 1:27 hours duration
Procedure presentations with public comment
Part 3 59 minutes duration
Diagnosis presentations with public comment
Videocast for September 19, 2013 | Day Two
Donna Pickett (CDC) Co-Chairperson
Part 4 1:42 hours duration
Diagnosis presentations with public comment
Diagnosis proposals
4:58 mins in: Presenter Lizabeth (Beth) Fisher (CDC) [on behalf of requestor: The American Society of Anesthesiologists]
Page 47 Diagnosis Agenda: Unintended awareness under general anesthesia
Comment from floor: Robert Adams reads out written statement.
13:56 mins in: DSM-5 and ICD-10-CM Discussions on mental health conditions and harmonization with ICD-10-CM.
Presenter: Darrel Regier, MD (Director of Research, APA; served as DSM-5 Task Force Vice-Chair)
Preamble about DSM and DSM-5.
Page 32 Diagnosis Agenda: Binge eating disorder
No questions or comments from the floor or by phone link.
29 mins in: Page 34 Diagnosis Agenda: Gender identity disorder in adolescence and adulthood
No questions or comments from the floor or by phone link.
37 mins in: Page 35 Diagnosis Agenda: Disruptive mood dysregulation disorder (DMDD)
No questions or comments from the floor or by phone link.
45 mins in: Page 37 Diagnosis Agenda: Social (pragmatic) communication disorder
No questions or comments from the floor or by phone link.
54 mins in: Page 39 Diagnosis Agenda: Hoarding disorder
No questions or comments from the floor or by phone link.
1hr:1 min in: Page 41 Diagnosis Agenda: Excoriation (skin picking) disorder
Some questions raised by DP on behalf of other and comment from the floor.
1hr:14 mins in: Page 43 Diagnosis Agenda: Premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD)
Question raised by DP regarding PMDD and Excludes.
No questions or comments from the floor or by phone link.
Dr Regier concludes his presentation and hands podium back to Donna Pickett (CDC).
1hr:22 mins in: Page 45-46 Diagnosis Agenda: Additional Tabular List Inclusion Terms for ICD-10-CM
See screenshots at end of Post #276 for Diagnosis Agenda Pages 45-46.
[Unofficial transcription from videocast]
Donna Pickett (CDC): “…And just to complete the package, there are other Tabular List proposals that appear on Page 45 and 46 that we would also invite your comments on. And again, with some of the terminology changes that Dr Regier has described the intent here is to make sure that if those terms are being used, that they do have a home somewhere within ICD-10-CM to facilitate people looking these up. So we invite comments. We’re showing the Tabular List proposed changes; however, there obviously would be associated Alphabetic Index changes with that which we didn’t show just to keep the package a little bit smaller…”
No questions or comments from the floor or by phone link on any of the proposed inclusion terms listed on Pages 45 and 46 under “Additional Tabular List Inclusion Terms for ICD-10-CM”.
Donna Picket moves on to next set of proposals and turns podium over to Beth Fisher (CDC).
1hr:23 mins in: Page 49 Diagnosis Agenda: Intracranial injury (TBI)
Comment from floor at 1hr:32 mins: Luana Ciccarelli from the American Academy of Neurology. Comment from Sue Bowman read out by Beth Fisher.
1hr:34 mins in: Page 53 Diagnosis Agenda: Placenta Previa vs Low Lying Placenta
Presenter Lizabeth (Beth) Fisher (CDC) on behalf of requestor: The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG).
No questions or comments from the floor or by phone link.
This concluded the diagnosis portion of the presentations.
Note that Agenda items from Page 53 onwards were tabled for presentation and discussion in earlier in the meeting proceedings.
1hr:40 mins in: Donna Pickett (CDC) brings meeting to a close.
[Unofficial transcription from videocast]
Donna Pickett (CDC): “…November 15…is in the Topic Package for receipt of comments on all of the proposals. That is the deadline, but we’d love to have them sooner as this does have implications in terms of what does become part of an addenda or not, and that would be specific to the inclusion terms in the Tabular List and Alphabetical Index because, again, unless the proposal meets the criteria established for the partial freeze, no new codes are being entertained except for the ones that were requested. We invite your comments on that as well…”
Submitting public comment:
The deadline for receipt of public and professional stakeholder comment on any of the proposed ICD-10-CM/PCS code revisions discussed at the September 18-19, 2013 ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee meeting is November 15.
Comments should be sent to the following dedicated NCHS/CMS email addresses:
Procedure comments by email to Pat Brooks, CMS: patricia.brooks2@cms.hss.gov
Diagnosis comments by email to Donna Pickett, CDC: nchsicd9CM@cdc.gov
(Full contact details for submission of written comments/objections to NCHS/CMS on Page 8 of the Proposals/Diagnosis Agenda PDF. Electronic submissions are much preferred in order to ensure timely receipt.)







September ’13 meeting Summary document posted: ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee
November 5, 2013 by admindxrw
Post #279 Shortlink: http://wp.me/pKrrB-3w6
The Summary of Diagnosis Presentations for the September 2013 meeting of the ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee has now been posted on the CDC website.
Deadline for receipt of public comments: November 15, 2013
Comments on the proposals presented at the September meeting should be sent to this email address: nchsicd9CM@cdc.gov
The Summary document and Diagnosis Agenda document can be downloaded here:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/icd/icd9cm_maintenance.htm
Summary and Proposals
September 18-19, 2013
Summary Adobe PDF file [PDF – 93 KB]
Summary Sept 18-19 2013
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/icd/icd_summary_sept_181913.pdf
Proposals Adobe PDF file [PDF – 347 KB]
Topic packet Sept 18-19 2013
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/icd/icd_topic_packet_sept_181913.pdf
According to the instructions for requesters, proposals for a new code should include:
• Description of the code(s)/change(s) being requested
• Rationale for why the new code/change is needed (including clinical relevancy)
• Supporting clinical references and literature should also be submitted.
Proposals should be consistent with the structure and conventions of the classification.
For the proposals to insert Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) and Illness anxiety disorder into ICD-10-CM as inclusion terms under existing F45 Somatoform disorders codes (as listed on Page 45 of the Diagnostic Agenda/Proposals document), no descriptions, no rationales and no supporting clinical references and literature were set out in the Diagnostic Agenda/Proposals document nor presented at the September meeting.
The requesters for each of these additional 17 insertions/changes listed under “Additional Tabular List Inclusion Terms for ICD-10-CM” remain unclear.
If you have comments or objections to the proposed insertion of Somatic symptom disorder (SSD) or in relation to any of the proposals requested via the September ICD-9-CM C & M Committee meeting, please have your submissions in, via email, to Donna Pickett nchsicd9CM@cdc.gov by November 15.
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Related posts:
Keep SSD out of ICD-10-CM – November 15 deadline for objections: http://wp.me/pKrrB-3vK
Videos and meeting materials: September 18–19 ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee meeting: http://wp.me/pKrrB-3tV
APA petitions CMS for additions to ICD-10-CM: Deadline for public comment and objections November 15: http://wp.me/pKrrB-3tq
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References for key documents and screenshots:
1. Article: ICD Codes for Some DSM-5 Diagnoses Updated, Mark Moran, Psychiatric News, October 07, 2013:
http://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/newsarticle.aspx?articleID=1757346
2. ICD-9-CM/PCS Coordination and Maintenance Committee Meeting September 18-19, 2013:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/icd/icd9cm_maintenance.htm
September meeting Proposals document [PDF – 342 KB]:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/icd/icd_topic_packet_sept_181913.pdf
3. ICD-9-CM/PCS Coordination and Maintenance Committee Meeting Sept 18-19, 2013 meeting materials and four YouTubes of proceedings:
http://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Coding/ICD9ProviderDiagnosticCodes/ICD-9-CM-C-and-M-Meeting-Materials-Items/2013-09-18-MeetingMaterials.html
4. YouTube Videos from September 18, 2013 Meeting Day One
ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee Meeting (Morning Session) Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut3DmV88Dmc
ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee Meeting (Morning Session) Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAE190sM5AQ
ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee Meeting (Afternoon Session) Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQOFadq2x6U
September 19, 2013 Meeting Day Two
ICD-9-CM Coordination and Maintenance Committee Meeting Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-pYdKyr_NE
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